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Piers Morgan missed important opportunities interviewing Imam Suhaib Webb

Last night Imam Suhaib Webb of the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center (ISBCC) was interviewed by Piers Morgan on CNN.  The ISBCC is an affiliate of the Islamic Society of Boston where the Boston Marathon suspects attended on occasion.  I just had to make note of some of the big opportunities Piers Morgan missed where he could of asked Webb some rather relevant followup questions:

Piers Morgan interview with Imam Suhaib Webb April 22, 2013:

Joining me is Imam Webb of the Islamic Society of the Boston Cultural Center. Welcome to you, Imam Webb. You're actually imam of a local mosque affiliated with the one that Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended. From all that you've now gleaned about what went on with him, were we seeing somebody who was being radicalized very quickly?

IMAM SUHAIB WEBB, ISLAMIC SOCIETY OF BOSTON CULTURAL CENTER: I'm not sure I can answer that question but definitely someone standing up in a Friday prayer and questioning a preacher who is talking about Martin Luther King Jr. might draw some flags but I don't think would necessitate calling law enforcement.

MORGAN: Now, he made two protests on two different incidents. He branded people a kafir, a non-believer. Clearly he was getting quite intense about his religion.
 
WEBB: Yes, I think that's where a qualified scholar or leader would need to step in and talk to him and see kind of what his mindset was, and from there, make a call on kind of what direction he was taking his religiosity.

Missed Opportunity:  I believe he called the Imam kafir for comparing Martin Luther King to the Islamic prophet, Mohammad, isn't that right?   Did the Imam talk to him about this outburst?  Have you spoken to the imam at your sister mosque about this?

MORGAN: What has been the reaction in the mosques, both yours and the one of course that Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended?

WEBB: With regards to what?

MORGAN: Well, to what's happened. Obviously he's been --

WEBB: Our reaction to what?

MORGAN: Your reaction to the discovery that somebody attending one of the mosques has been the perpetrator of this appalling bombing.

WEBB: Well, I think first and foremost as Bostonians, our hearts and prayers are with the community. And then there's a sense of anger and frustration that someone who would frequent one of our faith institutions would carry out such acts, so people seem to be very angry and upset with what he's done.

MORGAN: Is there any new system that you can put in place to raise more warning flags about characters like Tamerlan? Because it just seems to people that he's been plotting this in his head by being inspired by Islamic fundamentalists on videos that he;s found on the Internet, to commit an appalling act of terror, and yet he's been going to this mosque --

WEBB: Indeed.

MORGAN: -- hanging around with people. Somebody must have spotted that he was getting more intense, potentially dangerous, because we know the Russian authorities were wary enough about him to contact the FBI.

WEBB: Indeed, but I have to say, I don't think most mosques or churches or synagogues are law enforcement agencies. They don't have the same access that they would have.

Missed Opportunity:  Actually, those who attend a mosque together on a regular basis may have more access. When he called the Imam a kafir he revealed a bit of his fundamentalist views. Do you agree? Could this be a sign of radicalization or rigid fundamentalist believes?  Did his outburst cause concern?  It's been reported Tamerlan was in company of another Boston area Muslim convert by the name of Mihsa who practiced a strict form of Islam. Do you know who this person is?  I believe he has a red beard.   I wonder, Imam Webb, - do you advise your fellow Muslims to contact the FBI if they see something odd?  Does you mosque discuss radical Islam and its danger? Do you go over the warning sign?  Or, do you tell them not to talk to the FBI, say as CAIR does?

WEBB: But I think what's important is that the mosque here in Boston, the other mosque didn't appeal to his theology, so I think the way to address that -- there was an interesting Harvard study that said only 2 percent of the imams worldwide who called for global jihad had actually degrees from Islamic educational institutions that are considered respectable. So I think one of the best ways is through properly trained scholars who can mediate and talk to people and see where they're coming from and try to address some of those radical ideas that they have. He wasn't radicalized in Boston. It appears now that he was radicalized online.

Missed Opportunity:  Say, what was the name of the Harvard Study?  What year was it done?

Missed Opportunity:  You said 2% of imams who call for global jihad had degrees from proper Islamic institutions. How many imams would you say this represents 10 - 100 - 1000?  How many imams in total have called for global jihad? You don't know?  Hummm... The study referred to 2% of the total, right?  It seems odd you don't know the total. Didn't the study mention the total?  Do you see this global call for jihad by imams as a major concern for most non-Muslims?  Shouldn't the Imams who disagree with the call for global jihad stand up?  What is being done collectively?  Can you give me an example of a written statement from a collective of Imams specifically denouncing the call for global jihad?  What?  What do you mean you can't?

Missed Opportunity:  I noticed (since I did some research) that you have on your own website (SuhaibWebb.com) a glowing review of a presentation given at a conference on th book about Jihad by the highly controversial martyrdom-approving Sunni cleric Yusef Quaradawi.  This presentation, by the way, is also on the Muslim Brotherhood's English Website Ikhwanwebb. Is this wise, Imam?

Missed opportunity:  Did you attend a fund-raiser a few days before 9/11 for Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, otherwise known as H. Rapp Brown, who was convicted for killing a sheriff deputy?  Why were you there?  I read an FBI document about this fundraiser. Anwar Awlaki was there, as well, right?

MORGAN: Imam Webb, thank you for joining me.

WEBB: Thank you, sir.

End - Transcript from CNN

Last week, Webb was replaced (by Bretbart.com) as a speaker at the Boston Marathon Memorial Service the night before but Piers Morgan didn't bother to bring that up either. Another missed opportunity, Piers - geez. On the 21st, Suhaib Webb tweeted a link to this article stating. "They are liars."

There's just one problem, though, this very short article is accurate the best I can tell.  Webb was replaced the night before, he even tweeted about it. The Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center is linked to the Islamic Society of Boston and is referred to as the sister organization on the ISB website. Both are linked in the Islamic Society of North America (probably written in their constitution about their permanent affiliation to ISNA) who was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terror-funding trial (documented court evidence). This was the largest Hamas terror-funding case to date.  There you go again, Piers, missing another opportunity.

Shame on you, Piers Morgan.

 

Also see:

Bomb suspect influenced by mysterious radical

Mass. Mosque: Bomb Suspect Had 2 Recent Outbursts

2/18/11: Suhaib Webb's "virtual mosque" praised Yusef Qaradawi's book on jihad as a masterpiece!

What is New about Al-Qaradawi’s Jihad?  Ikhwanweb (same article)

Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center – Timeline  Pluralistic Project

FBI document on a fundraiser that Webb and Awlaki attended on 9/9/01 (FIOA by Judicial Watch)

CAIR New York and other Muslim groups to march against New York police Friday!

I find a protest, along with a public Muslim prayer scheduled for tomorrow in New York City, a disturbing sign of Islamism.  Activist Muslims who argue that proactive efforts by law enforcement to prevent another terrorist attack is repression seriously ought to have their heads examined. 

New York Muslim leaders tell community not to talk to police on terror concerns!

New York Muslim leaders are flexing their collective muscle to encourage Muslims NOT TO COOPERATE with law enforcement who are charged with protecting a city that has been attacked twice by terrorists who practice the Islamic faith.   According to liberal Huffington Post NY Muslims Angry Over Spying: 'Don't Call NYPD' For Terror Concerns.

Responding to Sheryl Siddiqui's criticism of Oklahoma "Islamophobes"

Islam doesn't allow killing of "innocent people" Sheryl Siddiqui wrote in a commentary published in the Oklahoma Gazette on September 20th. Last year in another interview, Siddiqui claimed only God has the right to take life.  I wonder if she could possibly enlighten me and other misinformed and ignorant Okies just how The Atlas of Islamic Conquests, which is sold at Islamic bookstore in the U.S., fits in the context of her claim. I assume these battles for power involved fighting, which is messy and many people were, I'm sure, killed. Were these conquests islamically sanctioned or were they a stain that reflects badly on Islam's history?  This book could be a useful resource about Islam's history of of supremacy. No matter how you spin it Islamism dominated.

Muneer Awad: FBI radicalized more terrorists than Anwar Awlaki!

Well, here's a horrible tweet from Muneer Awad, the director of CAIR's chapter in Oklahoma, to the FBI:

 

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Pew Research: 40% of Black Muslim Americans know of extremist support in their community!

Muslim activists can't see additional FBI records out of national security concerns!

The California Islamic Shura Council, CAIR and four other Islamic groups and 5 individuals can't see additional records of FBI inquiries into their activities because of "national security concerns" U.S. District Judge Cormac J. Carney ruled yesterday.  The judge also concluded the government mislead the court the records existed in the first place.  Judge Carney reached his decision after personally reviewing over 100 pages of documents.

CAIR San Francisco - Bay Area police shouldn't work with the FBI!

The anarchist director of CAIR's chapter in San Francisco, Zahra Billoo, is at it again.  This is the chapter, if you recall, had the Build A Wall of Resistance against the FBI poster on their website earlier this year.  They have sued the government twice since they took the poster down and this week, along with other left-wing organizations, urged local Bay area police not to work with the FBI's Joint Terrorism Taskforce. 

This is Islamism or political Islam.

This week, when FBI Director Robert Mueller testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee he was asked about efforts that encourage Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI (1:24 min mark).  He replied this was not the contributions they want from citizens to stop crime or the next terror attack.  He said they want communities to encourage their citizens to help them.

 

CAIR Oklahoma urged others to call outed FBI agent!

At the end of December, CAIR Oklahoma added a note and a link on their Facebook page about an article titled Help Stop FBI Entrapment. Act Now! that was written by Meinhaj Hussain at Grandestrategy.  What you may not realize is Grandstrategy is an overtly Islamic supremacist website.

 

CAIR's strategic use of leftist pro-Islamist propaganda

CAIR Oklahoma tweeted today a link to article in the obscure Village Voice which slammed the viewing a documentary called the Third Jihad by the New York City Police counter-terrorism unit as anti-Muslim when the film is, in fact, about Islamic supremacy, its drive for power through non-violent political means, as well as violent methods.  It is not an attack against spiritual Islam.

Conflating Islamism as an attack against ALL Muslims is a deceptive political ploy used by CAIR, other Islamist groups and their leftists partners.  CAIR New York issued a press release:  CAIR Asks NYPD to Probe Use of Anti-Muslim Training Film  using the left-wing article to help prove their point.   CAIR-NY Board President Zead Ramadan compared "The Third Jihad" to past propaganda such as the Nazi-era film "Triumph of the Will" or "Birth of a Nation," which vilified African-Americans".

See how this works?

Watch part one of Third Jihad and judge for yourself.  It features my favorite anti-Islamism Muslim, Dr. Zuhdi Jasser (get to know him).  He was ostracized by the Muslim community in America.

CAIR Oklahoma features interview with CAIR's anarchist director in San Francisco

CAIR Oklahoma's website features a video of a TV interview (CAIR OK link) with Zahra Billoo the director of CAIR's chapter in San Francisco, who is, OMG, a self-described anarchist Muslim!   Billoo and the MSNBC host blasted the congressional hearings planned by Rep. Pete King to explore the root cause of radicalization. 

CAIR Director Dawud Walid: federal government has chilling effect on Muslim freedom of religion!

Last night one of CAIR's most outspoken directors, Dawud Walid, out of their Michigan chapter participated in a religious freedom panel sponsored by the Interfaith Council for Peace and Justice (ICPJ) held at the Ann Arbor District Library.  You know, the ACLU types.

CAIR California: "Build a Wall of Resistance" against FBI!

The far-left often join up with Islamists to agitate, pressure and litigate their causes against our government.  This activism seems to be increasing. 

CAIR California poster: protect your family; don't talk to the FBI!

 

CAIR's anarchist director of their chapter in San Francisco, Zahra Billo, was quite happy to pick up the posters which bears this chapter's name.

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CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood and more...

CAIR's anarchist chapter director, Zahra Billoo

"Imagine if we had an Islamic state that was not backward, not secular, nor controlled by the US, how much more would we be able to achieve?"  ~Grande Stradegy

The Executive Director of CAIR's chapter in San Francisco, Zahra Billoo, describes herself as an anarchist Muslim on her twitter page.   An anarchist, as most of you know, is someone who rebels against government authority who can sometimes support violence to achieve the end. Of course, I cannot speak about the depth of her anarchist desires.

 

CAIR refused to appear on Bill O'Reilly to discuss woman charged with blasphemy

On Thursday, CAIR refused an invitation from the Bill O'Reilly show to discuss Asia Bibi, a Christian woman charged with blasphemy under sharia law in Pakistan. CAIR's refusal is in line with their practice to only discuss Islam in a positive manner, which -- surprise surprise-- is in compliance with sharia law where nothing negative is dared uttered about Islam, Islamism or sharia!  Bibi could face death for defending her faith.  Under sharia law/rule, Islam is placed above criticism and above all other religions, as stated in verse 9:33.  Muslims believe each verse in the Quran is the exact word of Allah.

AG Holder: Over 400 individuals convicted of terrorism crimes since 2001!

Last Friday, Attorney General Eric Holder gave a speech (DOJ transcript) before an Islamic civil rights organization called Muslim Advocacy.  This organization advises Muslims NOT to talk to the FBI and believe FBI undercover tactics must be stopped.  They remind me of CAIR who often thinks our government is the problem rather than never ending supply of Muslim terrorists who want to kill us.  Do they seriously think we are that stupid?

CAIR and its partners vs. the FBI

The left and CAIR:

 

CAIR attacks DOJ report clearing FBI in radical Imam's death

Last week, the DOJ cleared the FBI of any wrongdoing in the death of radical Imam Luqman Abdullah in Dearborn last fall during a raid.  But CAIR, and other leftist groups were not happy with the result:  Those initiating for federal probe unhappy with conclusions (with audio)

Seattle: CAIR teams up with anti-war group against FBI

Here's another example how CAIR works against our government with their partners on the left.

Seattle Protest Against FBI Intimidation (Thursday)

CAIR files lawsuit against Mighigan State Police over Imam's death

Imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah was shot and killed in an FBI raid last October when agents tried to arrest him.  Abdullah and 10 others were charged with conspiracy and theft of interstate shipments, mail fraud to obtain the proceeds of arson, illegal possession and sale of firearms, and the altering and tampering with vehicle identification numbers (VIN).  According to the ABC News report linked above, the FBI said Abdulluh encouraged members of his mosque to "carry a firearm" and to be prepared for "offensive jihad."  At the time,  Dawud Walid the Executive Director of CAIR Michigan stood up for the Imam.

Groups claim FBI are bugging Muslims; seek FBI documents

Ok, ok they didn't say it exactly that way but here is what they did say:

The ACLU along with the Asian Law Caucus and the San Francisco Bay Guardian newspaper are requesting information from the FBI about its domestic intelligence and operations guide. They want the public to know how that guide is being used in 29 states including California.

Muslim Brotherhood website helps CAIR get message out against U.S. government

Screen shot taken 7/16/2010 of an MB article:

CAIR issues travel advisory for American Muslims - appeals to President Obama!

CAIR, an outgrowth of the Islamic supremacist Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas infrastructure in America,  actively works against the United States government on national security measures.  Today, they issued a travel advisory warning American Muslims about traveling overseas because the big bad FBI might mistreat them and force them in exile,  In their press release, CAIR Travel Advisory Warns U.S. Muslims of 'Forced Exile', they appealed to President Obama. 

CAIR complains as FBI and CIA question Americans in Yemen

CAIR wrote a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder yesterday asking him to investigate the FBI and CIA who are working hard and non-stop to prevent a terror attack by concentrating on Americans who have traveled to Yemen which is high on the radar because of Anwar al-Awlaki and the Yemen Al Qaeda branch there and whose handprints appear to have been on the Ft. Hood shooting, the failed Christmas Day bombing and the failed Times Square bombing. 

Late last month, the Department of Homeland Security reported terror plots are at a record high.

Yet, today, CAIR had a press conference which, once again, went after the FBI.

...In his letter to Holder, CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad described the pressure exerted on the Virginia Muslim and on others in similar circumstances:

"His passport was confiscated and FBI agents have subjected him to at least eight interrogations, despite assertion of his constitutional right to remain silent as advised by his attorney. He has been explicitly told that he is on the no-fly list, and he has been pressured to submit to a polygraph test.

"The use of apparently illegal pressure tactics flies in the face of President Obama's commitment to abandon unconstitutional policies instituted under the previous administration.

"We are also deeply concerned that this apparent targeting of American Muslims not only infringes on constitutional rights, but also sends the message that Muslims are second class citizens and that the due process of law does not apply to them.

"I therefore respectfully request that your office investigate these incidents and take whatever remedial actions are necessary based on the results of that investigation. I would also request that the U.S. Department of Justice allow all American citizens to return to the United States, and, if there are any reasons to charge or investigate particular individuals, to do so once they are in their country of birth...

Why the nerve of the FBI to question someone and have them take a polygraph test.  This press conference was specifically about Yahya Wehelie who after spending 18 months in Yemen and who admitted having conversations with suspected Al Qaeda operative, Sharif Mobley, now finds himself on a no-fly list - the poor victim of the big bad U.S. government. 

CAIR advises Muslims they do not have to answer FBI questions!

What does CAIR do when they receive reports the FBI and other law enforcement officials are questioning more Muslims, of late?

Why, they make sure their fellow Muslims know they do not have to answer any questions, with or without, a subpoena. That's what they do:

CAIR Action Alert 609: "The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said today that its offices nationwide are receiving an increasing number of reports of FBI agents, along with other law enforcement officers, visiting and interviewing American Muslims, particularly members of the Pakistani-American community. Understand that providing information to the FBI or any law enforcement officer, absent a subpoena, is strictly voluntary. You are not obligated under law to answer any questions from law enforcement officers other than providing them with an official identification card...If they do have an arrest or search warrant, you can still exercise your right to remain silent...Should you decide to speak to agents alone despite the risks, note that you may set the conditions of the interview, including choosing when and where the interview is to take place, having a third party present such as a family member or community leader, deciding which questions to answer, and refusing to sign any documents. You may cancel the interview at any time..."

On the other hand, they did advise Muslims to report criminal activity but the overall tone of the action alert is exactly what I would expect from this Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas originated outfit in America.

Davi Barker, a Muslim Agorist

Have you heard of an agorist before?  Well, I sure haven't, until now. According to Wikipedia, ideologically it's a term for a revolutionary type of anarcho-capitalism (individualistic anarchist) or free-market anarchism, whatever that means.  There's a Muslim writer in the Examiner by the name of Davi Barker who is the Muslim writer for San Francisco.  He tweets under the name MuslimAgorist.  

Recently, and quite disturbingly, CAIR asked him to talk to some high school students about libertarianism, which can mean the abolishment of a government at the far end of its definition.  A sub-category is an anarcho-capitalist who advocates this abolishment.

FBI: CAIR won't answer our questions about its executives and Hamas!

Mark Schlachtenhaufen of the Edmond Sun wrote an excellent article titled What’s the truth about CAIR? on March 6th.

The Sun even called the FBI in Washington and got their response to this highly controversial Islamic organization:

“CAIR has been advised of the reasons behind our suspension of formal partnership,” the FBI stated. “These reasons include the fact that CAIR was named an unindicted co-conspirator in United States v. Holy Land Foundation and CAIR’s failure to answer our questions about a connection between their executives and Hamas. Until these questions are answered, the FBI does not consider CAIR an appropriate partner for formal liaison activities.”

CAIR's National Communications Director, Ibrahim Hooper, responded to the Sun by saying: “It is particularly galling when we hear these kinds of smears because we know what we do on a daily basis. He said he hoped American leaders would stand by CAIR when these smears happen.  Hooper is reportedly a former employee of the Islamic Association of Palestine (IAP) which was founded by the Muslim Brotherhood (U.S. vs. HLF Exhibit 003-0003, page 5), an internal MB document used as an exhibit in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas terror funding trial. On their website it states Hooper has been with CAIR since it was founded.  CAIR's founders, Nihad Awad, its former president Omar Amad and Rafeeq Jaaber were all employees of IAP.

Hamas was started by the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine.

Hooper calls the truth a smear.  CAIR is sadly mistaken to think deceit is going to work here.

Kevin Calvey, 5th District Congressional candidate, Cindy Crenshaw the President of Oklahomans Against CAIR Hate and Charlie Meadows, chairman of the Oklahoma Conservative Political Action Committee were interviewed for the article:

...Area resident Charlie Meadows, chairman of the Oklahoma Conservative Political Action Committee, said CAIR is a front organization to make Islam as appealing as possible to western culture...Calvey said the federal government should investigate CAIR, that the group’s tax exempt status should be in question and he wants all Oklahomans to be aware of what the organization is about. He said it is a problematic organization and his goal is to put the truth out about CAIR....Last month, Cindy Crenshaw, president of Oklahomans Against CAIR Hate, called for the condemnation of CAIR after a former CAIR leader was deported.  Crenshaw, who was injured by an explosive device while she was serving in the Air Force in West Germany, said she wants Oklahomans to know the truth about CAIR, that it is a hate group like the Ku Klux Klan...

“It’s really very scary,” Calvey said. “This isn’t some innocuous group.”

Razi Hashmi, the director of CAIR's chapter in Oklahoma claimed this was part of larger problem of  misunderstanding and misinformation.

No, it's part of the problem CAIR's has about being honest.

This article is very important.  First, there's actually a reporter in Oklahoma brave enough to confront CAIR -  unlike the Tulsa World and other newspapers and media who only publish what CAIR gives them.  Secondly, CAIR employees has shown time and time again they will not be honest about the facts.  Thirdly, Edmond Sun writer, William F. O'Brien, an Assistant Attorney General for the state of Oklahoma has written pieces that shills for CAIR here, here, here, and here.  The last article recounted their annual dinner last year where a proclamation was displayed by Gov. Brad Henry which applauded the work done by CAIR in Oklahoma.  I'm glad to see the Edmond Sun step up to the plate.

And lastly, Oklahomans aren't cowering down to CAIR's attempts to call the truth "smears" or lies and are taking action!

CAIR claims airport body scanners violate religous and privacy rights!

CAIR, an organization that grew out of the religious supremacist Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas infrastructure in America,  has agreed with a Fatwa issued by the Fiqh Council of North America that the use of airport body scanners are against Islamic law: 

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today supported a statement by a prominent group of Muslim scholars that full-body scanners being introduced in airports worldwide violate religious and privacy rights.

In a February 9 statement, the Fiqh Council of North America (FCNA) asked that scanner software be altered to produce only an outline of the body and urged Muslim travelers to avail themselves of alternative pat-down searches.

"We support the Fiqh Council's statement on full-body scanners and believe that the religious and privacy rights of passengers can be respected while maintaining safety and security," said CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad.

The Figh Council has a known Muslim Brotherhood leader, Jamal Badawi, ID'd by the FBI on its council.   I couldn't find this council's statement in google news but I did find it on Islamonline which is chaired by Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leaders Yusef Qaradawi - whose fatwas approve of martyrdom against Israel, including women and children.  This council stated the use of body scanners is against the teachings of Islam. They issued a fatwa, folks, as if they are the ruling authority here.

CAIR and other Muslims need to know that we follow American laws and rules and not Islamic law!

CAIR calls for probe into Imam's death in shootout with FBI

CAIR has called for an independent probe into Imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah's death after his autopsy was leaked to the press which was to be officially released Monday.  Adbullah was killed during an FBI raid last October. Ten others were arrested in a criminal investigation.  CAIR, an Islamist organization sprung from the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas infrastructure in America, has aligned some of their Democratic partners together to join with them.

In a TV interview with CAIR's Dawud Walid, he choose his words carefully when he said this would not be viewed well in the Muslim world.  Interesting,  how he's trying to put the U.S. under the scope of the Muslim Ummah!  But, it falls completely in line with an Islamic hegemony view of the United States.

Part of CAIR's press release:

"...CAIR, other civil liberties groups and Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), who is chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, have all called for an investigation into the death of Imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah. Earlier this month, Conyers sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder to ask the Justice Department's civil rights division to investigate both the October shooting and whether the FBI violated the Constitution by using informants in mosques. A report detailing the imam's autopsy is scheduled for official release on Monday.

...The shocking details of the imam's autopsy raise a number of disturbing questions that need to be answered," said Dawud Walid, executive director of CAIR's Michigan chapter. "First of all, did the FBI agents follow established procedure when they shot the imam 21 times? How was the imam shot in the back? Was it proper procedure to handcuff either a dead body or a mortally-wounded suspect? If the agents found the imam alive following the shooting, did they call for medical assistance? All these questions need answers..."

Now, we will wait for the FBI's response.

CAIR's support for terrorists is alarming!

The Muslim Brotherhood was founded by Hasan al-Banna shortly after the Islamic Ottoman Empire was defeated in 1924.  It's goal is to reestablish a caliph,  who a Islamic religious leader that rules over all others under his control with Sharia Law.  This was the power structure or Islamic hegemony created since Islam's inception. A study of the many caliphs that ruled over most Muslims from 632 until 1924 would be to your advantage..   

Islamic supremacy is the foundation of Sharia Law.

FBI answers letter from senators on CAIR

The Investigative Project reported on May 7th that Senators Tom Coburn (R-OK), John Kyl (R-AZ) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) wrote to the FBI on February 24, 2009 for more information regarding the FBI's severing of ties with CAIR, a national Islamic organization which grew out of the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas infrastructure in America:

"..The Investigative Project on Terrorism was the first to report on the FBI's decision to break communication with CAIR. That story cited an Oct. 8, 2008 letter from the head of the FBI's Oklahoma City field office, who canceled a meeting of local Muslim community groups because of CAIR's involvement.

...Evidence from the Hamas-support trial of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) placed CAIR founders Omar Ahmad and Nihad Awad in a group called the Palestine Committee. Internal documents show the committee was created by the Muslim Brotherhood to advance the Hamas cause politically and financially in the United States...'

On April 28, 2009, the FBI responded to their letter:

"...During that trial, evidence was introduced that demonstrated a relationship among CAIR, individual CAIR founders (including its current President Emeritus and its Executive Director) and the Palestine Committee. Evidence was also introduced that demonstrated a relationship between the Palestine Committee and HAMAS, which was designated as a terrorist organization in 1995. In light of that evidence the FBI has suspended all formal contacts between CAIR and the FBI.

The FBI's decision to suspend formal contacts was not intended to reflect a wholesale judgment of the organization and its entire membership. Nevertheless, until we can resolve whether there continues to be a connection between CAIR or its executives and HAMAS, the FBI does not view CAIR as an appropriate liaison partner..."

On May 7th CAIR's Omar Ahmad, the former Chairman Emeritus of the board (archived page from 2007) announced he was stepping down from the board all together.

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Action Alert #575: Urge AG to Appoint Prosecutor to Probe Torture     (WASHINGTON, DC, 4/28/2009) - The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today called on people of conscience to urge Attorney General Eric Holder to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Bush administration’s use of torture.

CAIR to the FBI: Our mosques, our Koran are off-limits!

At a "Know your Rights" seminar in Los Angeles last month, a number of Muslims gathered.  The message they heard from most speakers:  Beware of the FBI!

"As they sipped tea and nibbled on dates, more than 100 men and women listened to a litany of speakers sounding the same message: The FBI is not your friend.

"We're here today to say our mosques are off limits," Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations for Greater Los Angeles, told the crowd last month at an Anaheim mosque.

"Our Koran is off limits," Ayloush said. "Our youth, who they try to radicalize, are off limits. Now is the time to tell them, 'We're not going to let this happen anymore.'

...On Sunday, a coalition of the nation's largest Muslim organizations, including the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Muslim Public Affairs Council and the Islamic Society of North America, issued a statement demanding that the Obama administration address FBI actions, including what they describe as the "infiltration of mosques," the use of "agent provocateurs to trap unsuspecting Muslim youth" and the "deliberate vilification" of the council.

"It reached a level where we felt we had to do something," said Agha Saeed, chairman of the American Muslim Taskforce on Civil Rights and Elections. "The FBI is doing things which are not healthy. They are creating divisions and conflict, creating a totally negative, Islamophobic image of Muslims in America..."

LA Times

Excerpt from their statement:

Representatives from the American Muslim Alliance (AMA), the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Muslim Alliance in North America (MANA), Muslim American Society-Freedom Foundation (MAS-FF), Muslim Student Association-National (MSA-N), Muslim Ummah of North America (MUNA), the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), and the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) took part in Saturday's meeting. Other member and observer organizations were briefed by phone. (note: links added by z)

"...We are fully united in asking the Obama administration to address the following issues: 1. Infiltration of mosques and systematic manipulation of Muslim religious affairs, 2. Use of agents provocateurs to trap unsuspecting Muslim youth, 3. Unfair targeting and deliberate vilification of CAIR, a national Muslim civil rights organization, 4. Use of McCarthy-era tactics, most notably dissemination of Islamophobic analysis by federally-funded 'fusion centers' to local law enforcement agencies."

 

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Coalition, including CAIR, seeks release of man held on terror suspicion

Video: CAIR booth in Florida selling radical Islamic material

Dr. Juhdi Jasser's fight against Islamism

Muslim groups who support the FBI's decision to break with CAIR speak out!

CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood, and more

Muslim task force miffed at FBI for finding a suspected jihadist!

I would think Muslim organizations throughout America would applaud the FBI's effort to find the Islamic terrorists lurking among them who give Islam a bad name.  

If a known hate group had members join my church and tried to recruit members to carry-out an attacks on others, I would welcome their capture.  If it took the FBI to go undercover at my church to get them, so be it.  Glad they were exposed and arrested.  Thank you FBI!  It's really just plain common sense.

But that is not what we see here, folks.

From a press release issued by the American Muslim Taskforce yesterday and picked up by Fox Business we read:

More Islamic and civil liberties organizations have signed on to a statement by the American Muslim Taskforce on Civil Rights and Elections (AMT), a coalition of major national Islamic organizations, saying that it is considering suspending outreach relations with the FBI over recent incidents in which American mosques and Muslim groups have been targeted.

...The new signatories include the Pakistan American National Alliance, the Peace and Justice Foundation, Muslim Voters of America, and the Coordinating Council of Muslim Organizations (CCMO) in the greater Washington, D.C., area. The CCMO represents more than 50 Washington-area mosques, Islamic schools and Muslim organizations.

AMT is an umbrella organization that includes American Muslim Alliance (AMA), American Muslims for Palestine (AMP), Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Muslim Alliance in North America (MANA), MAS-Freedom, Muslim Student Association-National (MSA-N), Muslim Ummah of North America (MUNA), and United Muslims of America (UMA). Its observer organizations include the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) and the Islamic Educational Center of Orange County (IEC).

The incident they are so up in arms about has to do with an undercover man finding a potential jihadist in California which led to his arrest!  Why the nerve of law enforcement.

These Islamic organizations have deepened the division and mistrust that exits in America with many Muslim organizations because their claim of being a victim doesn't fly here.  Had these Islamic organizations thanked the FBI for finding this alleged jihadist instead of criticizing them, most of us would feel we are all on the same page.  But we are far from it.

Former CAIR chairman, Parvez Ahmed, visited by the FBI!

Parvez Ahmed use to be the chairman for CAIR, an outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas infrastructure in America.  He resigned last year due to differences in direction between his vision and those that have been at CAIR since its inception.

In an article in the Fayetteville Observer last Thursday, Ahmed revealed the FBI visited him seeking more information why he resigned:

"In January 2009, the Federal Bureau of Investigation told Fox News that it is severing ties with the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a leading American Muslim organization. A month later, I was surprised to see an FBI agent stop by my office in Jacksonville, seeking reasons for my resignation as CAIR chairman.

My reasons for departure were no secret. In a June 2008 interview with my local newspaper, I said that, to better serve the interests of its constituents, CAIR must empower a new generation of leaders who will foster greater accountability, transparency and professionalism. I had hoped that my departure would help move young talent into positions of leadership.

The election of N.C. Sen. Larry Shaw to succeed me took eight long months, yet there are no visible signs of revitalization to make the organization a more effective voice in the American sociopolitical discourse.

Despite my substantive disagreements with the organization, I find the FBI’s decision to cut off relations with CAIR unfortunate and unnecessary. I can only hope that this move does not represent a going back to COINTELPRO, an FBI covert operation of the 1960s that was aimed at subverting organizations struggling for racial equality.

...The FBI’s rather abrupt move to cut off its relationship with CAIR is just as misguided as a statement by a coalition of Muslim groups calling on American Muslims to “consider suspending all outreach activities with FBI offices.” Limiting “formal contacts” or “suspending outreach” sends the wrong message at a time when the way forward, locally, nationally and globally, is sustained dialogue and diplomacy, even among those at political loggerheads."

Ahmed doesn't think the FBI should have cut off relations with CAIR but what did he really mean when he said CAIR needed greater accountability, transparency and professionlism?

CAIR fails to be a true partner in fighting Islamic terrorism

In California recently it was revealed that a FBI informant had infiltrated mosques in Orange County and recorded the jihadist talk of one particular Muslim who was later arrested.

Instead of praising the work of the FBI for finding this alleged jihadist amongst them, CAIR  blasted the FBI!   Keep in mind, the OC Muslim community did not report the man.

This Islamic organization, which is a blatant outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas infrastructure in America, once again claims to speak for all American Muslims who do not dispute this claim, I should add.  

And American Muslims wonder why there is a problem. 

From the statement by CAIR:

"The American Muslim community has never wavered from its commitment to keeping America safe, nor has it hesitated from cooperating with various law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, in ensuring the security of all U.S. citizens," the Greater Los Angeles Area office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said in a statement.

But, it said, reports that informants have been paid "to monitor and provoke law-abiding Muslims in houses of worship" and the recruitment by the FBI of Muslims "to become informants" have left American Muslims with "deeply troubling concerns."

One of them is that "these coercive and intimidating methods highlight the fact that the FBI continues to view the entire American Muslim community as suspect and treat it as such," the statement said.

"Infiltrating mainstream mosques the way FBI informants infiltrate white supremacist groups illustrates the FBI's perception of American Muslims as a community that must be constantly monitored, instead of being treated as an equal partner in fighting crime and terrorism," according to the statement..." 

MSNBC

You've got that right, CAIR. 

But under President Obama's liberal leadership and inclusive nature FBI scrutiny could be curbed.  The Islamist's agenda then can accelerate and flourish in a more protected environment which is, of course, exactly what they want.  That's why Muslim organizations often partner up with the left. 

The struggle to bring Islam to the West was resoundingly apparent in the non-Muslim country of Serbia when an internal struggle led to an independent country, Kosovo, being formed as a new largely Muslim-dominated country which happened one year ago on February 17th. 

I am curious, CAIR, do you happen to have a list of when anyone in the American Muslim community actually has turned someone in to authorities?   I am unaware of anytime this has happened. 

Some partner.

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A Short History of Kosovo (formerly part of Yugoslavia)

Albanians and Serbs in Kosovo: An Abbreviated History An Opening for the The Islamic Jihad in Europe. G. Richard Jansen Colorado State University ...

  

Kosovo makes its first major international outing at Islamic ...

Mar 14, 2008 ... At the OIC summit, Kosovo's two-man mission spent part of Thursday meeting with non-Muslim delegates like the United Kingdom and with ...

  

Albanians Push KosovoIn Islamic Conference :: BalkanInsight.com

Feb 3, 2009 ... started a petition drive to appeal to all 57 members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, OIC, to recognize Kosovo’s independence.

 

Kosovo Independence Significant in Muslim World, Envoy Says

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Muslim Brotherhood

CAIR and Company

Islam in Oklahoma

CAIR blames Islamophobia on FBI decision to cut ties

Yesterday, CAIR, an Islamic organization created out of the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamasinfrastructure in America, responded to the FBI's decision to pull back or stop their involvement with CAIR with their typical "it's the islamophobic guy's" fault. 

Of course, CAIR ignored the hard evidence that led to their organization being named an unindicted-co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terror funding trial where millions were funneled to Hamas.  It was this designation that led the FBI to pull back their involvement with the Islamic group and not Islamophobia. 

CAIR's own action = FBI response is a concept this organization won't own up to. As a result, CAIR looks foolish and weak with their latest tirade:

"The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today responded to what it termed “smears and misinformation” about the Bush administration’s decision to cut some ties between the Washington-based civil rights and advocacy group and FBI field offices.

Steven Emerson, a “notorious Islamophobe” who has attacked CAIR since its founding in 1994, recently circulated a story about letters sent by the FBI before the end of the Bush administration to many of the group’s chapters stating that they can no longer participate in the FBI’s community outreach activities."

"...As part of the smear campaign against CAIR, several right-wing members of Congress also circulated a “dear colleague” letter asking that elected officials not meet with the group’s representatives, even if they are constituents.

The Oklahoma Chapter of CAIR was mentioned in a letter from the FBI Oklahoma City office as the reason the FBI was unable to attend a planned event with local Muslim groups.

None of the local newspapers in Oklahoma carried the story that I can find.  None. 

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Rep Sue Myrick

CAIR's Letter to Rep. Sue Myrick"

FBI letter mentions CAIR-OK

Razi Hashmi, CAIR-OK, claims Oklahomans concerned about taxpayer's support for Israel

Razi Hashmi, CAIR-OK, shills for Hamas 

America should take immediate steps to end Israel’s"illegal and immoral” offensive against the Gaza Strip Hamas rulers, the executive director of the Oklahoma City chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said Monday (1/5/09). 

Razi Hashmi on Facebook

All part of the war on terrorism

Islamonline: CAIR endorses Barack Obama

The Muslim Brotherhood in America revisited

Barack Obama's Muslim outreach director met with top leaders of organizations that are the direct outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas infrastructure in America!

CAIR challenges John McCain and Sara Palin (for using the terms the Muslim Ummah forbids, like Islamic terrorism, jihadists and so on.)

Muslim Brotherhood

CAIR and Company

Islam in Oklahoma

FBI letter mentions CAIR-OK

It's quite noteworthy that the Council of American Islamic Relation's chapter in Oklahoma was specifically mentioned in a letter by the FBI when it severed it relations with the controversial Islamic group. 

News of this letter emerged just four weeks after Razi Hasmi, CAIRs-OK director shilled for Hamas in a local Oklahoma newspaper:

America should take immediate steps to end Israel’s"illegal and immoral” offensive against the Gaza Strip Hamas rulers, the executive director of the Oklahoma City chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said Monday (1/5/09).

From Fox News:

"...In Oklahoma, FBI officials had worked with CAIR's local branch from its founding in 2007 and attended the fundraising banquet that launched the office. But just over a year later, the local FBI froze all its programs involving CAIR.

FOXNews obtained a copy of the Oct. 8, 2008 letter sent by James E. Finch, special agent in charge of Oklahoma City, which canceled a session with local Muslim organizations "as a result of the planned participation by the Oklahoma chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)."

Click here to read the letter, which was provided by the Investigative Project on Terrorism.

The new policy marks a major shift for the FBI, which has long been close to CAIR. The agency has previously invited CAIR to give training sessions for agents and used it as a liaison with the American Muslim community.

But not all CAIR branches have been told of the FBI's new policy.  "Locally we have not had any reports, we have no letters from the FBI to suggest that" ties were being severed, said Ahmed Rehab, a spokesman in CAIR's Chicago office. "It's a working relationship and that remains in place."

It remains unclear whether CAIR's national office is still in contact with the FBI, as a formal statement from the bureau seemed to hold out the possibility for renewed engagement.

CAIR's executive director, Nihad Awad, attended a post-Sept. 11 meeting with then-FBI director Robert Mueller,and he met with other top brass as recently as 2006. But that was before Awad was shown to have participated in Hamas funding planning meetings with the Holy Land Foundation.  Five officials were convicted in December of funneling $12.4 million to Hamas.

Right Side News, reported "...A spokesman for the FBI's Oklahoma City office referred questions -- to the FBI's national press office. In Washington, FBI spokesman John Miller said, "We've certainly been in contact with CAIR chapters" about the un-indicted co-conspirator designation. "The letter speaks for itself."

CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper declined to comment Wednesday when the IPT called for comment. Before hanging up, Hooper said "We're more than happy to cooperate with legitimate media. But we don't cooperate with those who promote anti-Muslim bigotry..."

Legitimate media? Oh please, CAIR that's so weak.

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Click here to see the government's evidence in the Holy Land Foundation case.

Muslim groups who support the FBI's decision to break with CAIR speak out!

OKC FBI Press release on initial MCOP Meeting  3/14/07

Officers seek to bridge gap with Muslims  NewsOk 2/17/07

Muslim Brotherhood

CAIR and Company

Islam in Oklahoma

Breaking: FBI breaks off contact with CAIR!

YIPEE!  The FBI has severed ties with CAIR, at least for now. There's reference to the Oklahoma City FBI office in the press release below, you may find interesting.

As many of zTruth readers know, the Islamic Society of Tulsa and Greater Oklahoma City have been very visible with their partnership with this questionable Islamic organization. The FBI had to cancel a meeting with local Oklahoma Muslim groups because of involvement by CAIR-OK, it appears.

I think this was a smart decision by the FBI to cut bate with CAIR, an outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas infrastructure in America.

Below is part of the press release issued by the Investigative Project:

"It is a stunning rebuke to the organization which promotes itself as "arguably the most visible and public American Muslim organization." The decision to end contacts with CAIR was made quietly last summer as federal prosecutors prepared for a second trial of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF), an Islamic charity convicted in November for illegally routing money to Hamas. CAIR was named as an un-indicted co-conspirator in the case.

 

Its name appears on a roster of "Palestine Committee" members. Evidence in the case shows the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas's parent organization, created the Palestine Committee to help Hamas politically and financially. CAIR founders Omar Ahmad and Nihad Awad, who remains the executive director, also appear on a telephone list of Palestine Committee members. The men also participated in a secret 1993 gathering of Hamas members and supporters called to discuss ways to "derail" U.S.-led peace efforts between Israelis and Palestinians.

The IPT obtained a letter from the FBI's Oklahoma City field office, which explained that a meeting with local Muslim groups had to be postponed due to restrictions on CAIR's access. For that to change, wrote James E. Finch, special agent in charge of the FBI's Oklahoma City field office, "certain issues must be addressed to the satisfaction of the FBI. Unfortunately, these issues cannot be addressed at the local level and must be addressed by the CAIR National Office in Washington, D.C."

FBI spokesman John Miller confirmed the letter's existence. Sources indicate similar correspondence was issued by other field offices..."

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Muslim Brotherhood

CAIR and Company

Islam in Oklahoma

Hotline setup to monitor FBI efforts to question those who entry into U.S.

A number of organizations have set up a hotline to gather complaints against the FBI.  On December 1st,  the FBI instituted new guidelines that authorize them to gather a wide-range of information without any evidence of wrong-doing in their unrelentless effort to keep us safe from another Islamic terrorist attack.  

Naturally, CAIR an organization that grew out of the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas infrastructure in the U.S. is right in the middle of it. 

Come to think of it, have you ever heard of one incident where CAIR has actually helped the FBI get information against terrorists?

"It's a new effort to help those who have been racially profiled at border crossings.   The American Civil Liberties Union says the FBI has implemented new guidelines that will allow agents to profile individuals for searches based on race and ethnicity at borders across the United States.  The Detroit branch of the NAACP, ACCESS, CAIR and ACLU Wednesday launched a new hotline to report issues.

Dawud Walid, Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said since the September 11th terror attacks there's been an increase in profiling, particularly focused on American Muslims at borders.  

Walid claims personal property such as wallets and laptops have been taken from people, searched and -- in some cases -- have had information removed."

WWJ Newsradio 950

Muslims cry foul in mosque investigations in California

It's amazing to me that we rarely (ever?) read or hear about Muslims who welcome our government's efforts to prevent Islamic terror attacks or radicalization in the U.S.  The typical response is usually to claim they are the poor victims of such efforts.  Naturally, the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas linked Council of American Islamic Relations usually cries the loudest and portrays themselves as the national spokesman for all American Muslims.  Just as they did a few days before 9/11 after a raid on an Islamic business called Infocom which they called an "anti-Muslim witch hunt" promoted by the pro-Israel lobby in America".

"American Muslims view yesterday's action as just one of a long list of attempts by the pro-Israel lobby to intimidate and silence all those who wish to see Palestinian Muslims and Christians free themselves of a brutal Apartheid-like occupation. We believe the genesis of this raid lies not in Washington, but in Tel Aviv.

CAIR's actions speak far louder than any anti-terror document their name may be on.

It didn't help today that I read about an investigation on-going in California first from the website of terror-supporter Yusef Qaradawi's Qatar-based Islamonline.  That kinda gets to me.

I even tried to put myself in their shoes. As a Christian, would I feel victimized because the federal government was trying to weed out radical Christians who were planning attacks or being brainwashed to plan attacks against our homeland?  Would it bother me they were investigating churches in my community?  Would I feel threatened?  My answer?  Absoutely not.  I would want that kind of scrutiny for the overall safety of our community and country.  In my church, they would quicky see nothing was going on.  Or if there was, I would be grateful to get it exposed and dealth with. If my minister was involved, I'd want him removed.  I certainly wouldn't be crying I was a victim. Supporting our government in eliminating these threats is critical and an obvious necessity.  But we get just the opposite from most Muslims.

The California Muslim community reaction is troubling and should concern you.  And why they let an Islamist-leaning terror-linked group, such as CAIR,  speak for them is equally troubling. 

CAIR also teams up with the far-left and will use them or whatever method they can to stiffle our government.  These partnerships has to compromise their ultra conservative Islamic values but yet they work with these groups for their own gain:

A report that mosques in Los Angeles and San Diego are under federal surveillance has resurrected fears in the Muslim community about government monitoring and led two civil rights groups Wednesday to call for congressional hearings.

The request for public hearings followed a newspaper article last week that cited FBI and Defense Department files pertaining to surveillance of mosques and Muslims in Southern California.

Corey Saylor, Washington spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said the article in the San Diego Union-Tribune "has again raised concerns that our community is being watched."

"We've heard about this in the past, but this article appears to be the first confirmation that surveillance is taking place," Saylor said. "Has faith moved from a personal choice to probable cause?"

Council chapters in Anaheim and San Diego joined the American Civil Liberties Union and Islamic Shura Council of Southern California in asking the U.S. House and Senate judiciary committees and the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform for hearings. In a letter to the committee chairmen and ranking minority members, the groups said hearings are needed to determine the extent of the surveillance and whether people are being monitored because they are Muslim.

Information about the alleged spying surfaced in a case about classified files concerning terrorism that the newspaper said were stolen from a secure office used by military and civilian law enforcement officials at Camp Pendleton.

Ed Buice, Naval Criminal Investigative Service spokesman in Washington, said an investigation was underway to determine "whether individuals connected to the military may have been involved in illegal activities."

L.A. Times

HLF Trial Update 3: FBI Testifies CAIR Executive at Hamas Meeting!

In testimony today at the Holy Land Trial, FBI Special Agent Laura Burns said Nihad Awad, Executive Director of CAIR, was the man who, until now, had been identified only as Nihad LNU (last name unknown) in FBI reports and analyses. He participated in a meeting in a Philadelphia hotel in 1993 with U.S. Hamas representatives.  Remember, the FBI has been working on this case for many years.

"Transcripts and FBI analyses released since then show the meeting sought a strategy to kill the (Oslo) peace accord, which threatened to marginalize the Islamist movement. The group also discussed ways to improve HAMAS fund raising in America.

According to FBI reports, the men tried to hide their true agenda, agreeing not to even say the word “HAMAS” - but to call it “SAMAH” its reverse - even in their private conversations. Most of the participants were identified through surveillance and an examination of the hotel registry. But until Thursday, the identity of one person at the meeting – Nihad LNU - remained a mystery.

Awad was asked about the meeting during a 2003 deposition for a civil lawsuit. He initially said he didn't think he had attended the Philadelphia meeting. When pushed he replied, "I don't remember." Nor did he remember whether he was invited.

The idea for the meeting was discussed in a telephone call recorded by the FBI on Sept. 14, 1993. A day earlier, Yasser Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin shared an uneasy handshake on the White House lawn. That paved the way for the Palestinian Authority’s creation, and, it was hoped at the time, a path toward a more peaceful future.

On the telephone, three men discussed who should be invited to join them in a meeting to discuss what to do next. The call included Omar Ahmad (CAIR’s chairman emeritus), who at the time served at President of the Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP)(since shut down by the U.S. government), Shukri Abu Baker, President of the Holy Land Foundation and one of the defendants now on trial, and Abdelhaleem al-Ashqar, the Executive Director of a HAMAS-linked charity known as the Al Aqsa Educational Fund.

They discussed inviting people from the “Union,” a code reference to the IAP. They mentioned “Akram,” “Abdul Rahman” and “Nihad.” In 1993, Nihad Awad was the spokesman and public relations director for the IAP.

During that same telephone conversation, the men on the telephone call referred to Nihad's work in "media." Shukri Abu Bakr mentioned "a full article in Dallas Morning News...and every few lines: Mr. Nihad said this and that...." The Dallas Morning News did publish an article that day. It ran under the headline "Dallas' Mideast Observers Warn of Conflict Ahead." It extensively quoted "Nihad Awad, spokesman for the Dallas-based Islamic Association of Palestine."  Counterterrorism Blog

Now, for another perspective, I turn to the Hoy Land Foundation Trial Blog whose two entries this week didn't mention one word about of the evidence presented in the trial such as the video shown on Monday of Hamas children being indoctrinated to hate Jews.  Instead, the blogger ignores the trial and turns the issue around to make it all a Christian problem. 

..."Anyone who believes that this (Christian domination) world-view is a fantasy  has only to watch the advertising “trailer” for a movie called “Jesus Camp.”  The children in this film (some as young as five years old) are being trained to do battle with Satan—a thin disguise for the Muslim world. Their teachers believe that they must be prepared to take Jerusalem by force in order to usher in the Reign of Jesus.

And why are people who have this world-view (some estimates say there are 80 million of them in the United States) not questioned, not investigated for their loyalty to this country, not wire-tapped and followed around for years to catch them in some kind of offense against our country? It might be because they have friends in high places."

This blogger's failure to report on the evidence presented this week is not only dishonest but it's also weird.  In his profile he claims he is a Christian and a college professor.  Ok.