Trying to get answers for a local Tulsa Muslim who writes under the screen name Proud Muslim is next to impossible. Here's one of my latest attemtps in the comments section from a Letter to the Editor: The hidden agenda
November 24, 2010:
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zTruth, Tulsa (2 months ago)
Proud Muslim do you not acknowledge there are global Islamist movements that are present in the U.S.? Your response seems very odd to me.
"An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America," is an internal document written by the Muslim Brotherhood and approved by their shura council. It was introduced in the largest Hamas terror-funding trial in U.S. history. Their plan included setting up national Islamic organizations to help push Islam forward to help advance their Islamic supremacist goal which is to rule over all other religions. CAIR was started by leaders of the Islamic Association of Palestine, an overt arm of the Muslim Brotherhood. Therefore, it's highly significant CAIR's director in Oklahoma is suing the state. |
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Proud Muslim, Tulsa: Coolest place in the world (almost) (2 months ago)
"Your response seems very odd to me."
Humor is lost on you, zTruth. |
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zTruth, Tulsa (2 months ago)
Proud Muslim, you didn't answer the question. Do you acknowledge there are Islamic supremaicst movements in the U.S.?
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Proud Muslim, Tulsa: Coolest place in the world (almost) (2 months ago)
Wow. And me thinking it was a hypothetical question. I guess all humor really is lost on you. You have my pity.
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zTruth, Tulsa (2 months ago)
Why would I ask a "hypothetical" question about a real document written by the Muslim Brotherhood laying out their plans to subvert our democracy?
Just answer the question. |
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Proud Muslim, Tulsa: Coolest place in the world (almost) (2 months ago)
Wait, was that also a hypothetical question?
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zTruth, Tulsa (2 months ago)
Proud Muslim, your fluffy happy talk can only go so far, which should be rather revealing to others. There are serious underlying issues that cause problems and mistrust with Muslim communities around the country. One is the avoidance about these Islamic supremacist movements. But, I already knew to expect that from you after having previous conversations with you.
CAIR's Muneer Awad was featured on Ikhwanophobia, which is a website that exposes those who fear members of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood's main English website links to it. |
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Proud Muslim, Tulsa: Coolest place in the world (almost) (2 months ago)
"your fluffy happy talk can only go so far"
What would you expect from a fluffy happy Muslim? (Now THAT'S a hypothetical question!) ;) |
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zTruth, Tulsa (2 months ago)
Honesty would be nice.
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drudge2, Tulsa (2 months ago)
zTruth:
Do you acknowledge there are Christian supremaicst movements in the U.S.? "Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ -- to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness. But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice. It is dominion we are after. Not just influence. It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time. It is dominion we are after. World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle for anything less... Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land -- of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts, and governments for the Kingdom of Christ." (From The Changing of the Guard: Biblical Principles for Political Action by George Grant, published in 1987 by Dominion Press) |
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Proud Muslim, Tulsa: Coolest place in the world (almost) (2 months ago)
Yes, honesty is nice. :)
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zTruth, Tulsa (2 months ago)
drudge2, it would help me if you actually named a few of those movements and provided me and others with some concrete information to review (i.e., court documents and so on). You are speaking in generalities so I am not sure what you mean here.
The Muslim Brotherhood plan to subvert our country is part of a global Islamic supremacist movement of which there is documented court evidence to review. |
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true2form, Grand Lake (2 months ago)
drudge2...allow me
-United Church of YHWH -Aryan Nations Revival -Kingdom Identity Ministries -Scriptures For America Ministries -Christian Guard -America's Promise Ministries -Fellowship Of God's Covenant People -By Yahweh's Design -Mission To Israel The site of the Southern Poverty Law Center can provide chapter and verse on these and other groups in addition to a state by state breakdown. Please spare me(and yourselves) the rants about the credibility of the SPLC. |
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TeaTimer, Tulsa Area (2 months ago)
GREAT article.
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drudge2, Tulsa (2 months ago)
Ahh, you beat me to it, true2form. But thanks for having my back.
What about it, z? |
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Oklahomer, Sapulpa (2 months ago)Ghost: You missed my point completely. This state question was measure to get simple-minded conservatives stirred up so that they would come to the polls and register their hatred for Muslims and elect Tea Party Republicans to office. It is a waste of time and money for the state to defend a clearly unconstitutional and hateful measure. If I were a Muslim, I would be greatly offended by the low intelligence and the mean-spirit exhibited by a majority of the Oklahoma voters. In fact, I am not a Muslim and I am offended by the low intelligence and mean-spirit exhibited by a majority of the Oklahoma voters. We use to be a much better state and people.
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not normal, (2 months ago)
True2form and Drudge2- you guys are awesome! Proud Muslim- You are the coolest person in Oklahoma
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zTruth, Tulsa (2 months ago)
If you go to the SPLC case docket page and type in the keyword Christian, only five civil cases they filed come up from 1969 to 1999. I didn't see any indication there are large Christian supremacist movements here.
What I need is federal court documents that show where any of these groups had plans to subvert our country used as evidence against them. Also, I would need the court documents about their nationwide and/or global movements, and/or their funding of Chrisitan terrorists and so on that have been uncovered by the FBI or other law enforcement agencies. I would need to review all these court documents before I could say there are Christian supremacist movements in the U.S. The SPLC is well-known as a left-wing civil rights organization but its cases against Christian supremacists seemed extremely small. |
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Proud Muslim, Tulsa: Coolest place in the world (almost) (2 months ago)
Aw, shucks, not normal! :)
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